The Tuneful Eight
In 2018, Steffen Goerzig approached me with an idea for a new demo and a world first: 8 SID chips in one C64. Almost one year later, we've released the demo at Evoke 2019 in cologne, winning second place in the
Alternative Platform competition.
The demo as shown at Evoke, running on a pimped Ultimate 64 built by Marty (Radwar) with 4 FPGASIDs and 4 UltiSIDs:
Song recorded from real SID chips, spiced with editor screencap and oscillators:
Song composed and programmed by Markus
C64 recording by Christian
SID Spieler Thamerus
The Tuneful Eight illustration and logo by James
Cheesecutter tool by Abaddon
Further Credits from the original demo:
Code and concept: Steffen Goerzig
Ultimate 64: Gideon Zweijtzer
FPGASID: Andreas Beermann
very cool music-release on Evoke 2019. SID-Sounds without hardware-limits ...
Nice ! More !
There's always more! :-)
I noticed in the text talking about new firmware for the Ultimate64, which is a bit of hardware I don't own but I do own an Ultimate 1541++ which can do an extra sid, was there any talk about this, to be honest I don't even know if its possible but thought I'd ask?
Whatever the answer I just want to repeat that the demo and tune was awesome....Thank you.
Listened to "The Tuneful Eight" today with this emulator and it is a superb demo, a massive sound-experience with so much SID's! Good work. Really great.
And also good work from the HOXS programer for making it possible, to emulate such a great demo so good! And especially so fast, just needed some days for integrating such a function. Impressive.
@Uri: Indeed, that was super awesome by the HOXS coders! Thanks man!
But one question i have to this. Why the normal WinVICE V3.2 was used, which had the bad V3 SID-filters and not this release here for example
which had the SID-filters from WinVICE V2.4 brought back to WinVICE V3.2.
The newer SID-Filters, which was used in WinVICE since Version V3.1, made problems in some songs, like for example in the song "Klogge"
When this SID was transformed to a prg (for example with PSID64) and then played in the normal WinVICE V3.2, then you hear what i mean. The bass sounds totally overdriven. When you listen with older VICE versions, like for example the mentioned V2.4 or with my linked version, to this song, it will sound normal like it should, without these problems. And the "Klogge" SID is not the only one, which had problems with the newer SID-Filters.
Therefore it would have been much better and more senseful, porting the 8SID support to the linked WinVICE V3.2 which had the older and better V2.4 SID-filters inside. Because when people can listen to 8SIDS they should do it without those problems like they are in the SID-Filter from WinVICE V3.1 on.
Maybe anybody can do this and use these patched WinVICE version which i linked, to put the 8SID suppoert inside?
In HOXS "The Tuneful Demo" sounds very good, by the way.
Sadly it's true what "Andy K1" wrote above, that some Sid's make problems with the newer Sid-Filter from version V3.1 on. This mentioned "Klogge" SID is just one of those problematic songs.
I'd not try this demo with real SID chips... I can't confirm it was caused by this and i know we're dealing with fragile very old hardware, but I'm not going to be running this demo or anything so experimental again until I can rule it out as a possible cause.
While testing during the development of this demo I tried several combinations of SID and SID replacements, to archive the best possible audio solution. None of my 6581(R4AR)/8580 or any of the replacements (ARMSID, SwinSID ulti, FPGASID) got broken. But maybe you should really keep in mind that all of the real SIDs are now nearly or above 30 years old sensitive MOS devices and might break out of the blue, just because only changing the sockets. ESD is a bitch!